Albany Residents Split Over Proposed Safeway Expansion
Some residents say Safeway's new store will take away what gives Albany its charm. Others say it will bring modern amenities.
When Joseph Pieri bought a three-bedroom house next to Safeway on Solano Avenue in 2004, he thought he'd found his dream home.
"My wife said, 'I could die in this house.' She didn't have to drive anywhere," said 61-year-old Pieri, of their tidy Neilson Street property.
Now, with Safeway's massive expansion plan looming, what seemed to be a great convenience has turned into a major headache.
"I didn't know Safeway had a plan to tear down the existing store and build a new one," said Pieri, a former developer. "If I had known, I would have had second thoughts about purchasing the house."
Since 2005, Safeway has been asking Albany officials for approval to demolish its Solano store to build a 54,000-square-foot structure – more than twice the size of the current one. In the past five years, Safeway met with immediate neighbors of the store, held three community-wide meeting and had three study sessions with the city to discuss the plan.
According to Susan Houghton, director of public and government affairs for Safeway's 271-store Northern California division, Safeway's expansion plan on Solano is a part of its regional strategy to achieve a "lifestyle" remodel to offer wider variety and more organic produce.
In the last meeting with the city June 3, city commissioners directed Safeway to work on buffer zones near the residential areas; the store's size; and the logistics of the loading trucks. Houghton said Safeway hopes to have one more official meeting at the Planning and Zoning Commission before the August break. Safeway has to have Design Review approval, but Jeff Bond, the city's Planning and Building manager said it is unclear how long that will take.
Many neighbors said they see this plan as another example of a big-box corporation with a vision out of line with the small-town ambience Albany cherishes.
In the latest plan, according to documents filed with the city on June 3, 2008, the current single-story building will gain a floor and an underground parking garage. The store would expand to cover the current parking lot, which faces Solano. As a result, shoppers and loading trucks would be forced to drive through narrow Curtis or Neilson streets to reach the loading dock and entrance, which would face the residential area to the south.
Many residents said they support Safeway but were puzzled about why it needs to expand.
"We aren't against Safeway. I actually shop there, "said Albany native Peter Hsu, 27, who launched a website in May, called "Stop Safeway on Solano," to give neighbors information on building plans. Hsu grew up in his parents' house by Safeway on Neilson.
"But the scale of the construction is not fitting with the small town feel of Albany, and that is what you come to Albany for," said Hsu, who works as a lieutenant for the U.S. Coast Guard. "It would be nice if they refurbish it to make it look nicer."
Betty Lee, an Albany resident, agreed.
"We are supporting Safeway on Solano to upgrade," said the manager at Matsu Fine Natural Bedding and Gifts, an Asian antique shop across from the grocery store. "But the size would not match with the scenery. It is like wearing a huge belt over a nice suit."
Safeway tried to justify the size of the proposed store June 3 before the Planning and Zoning Commission. According to a letter the company sent to the commission, "the proposed Solano Avenue store would be approximately 7,974 square feet larger than a typical 43,000-square-foot Safeway, but many of its retail areas would be substantially smaller in size."
At the same time, Safeway submitted a chart comparing the size of many grocery stores in the Bay Area, including Lucky, Berkeley Bowl and Whole Foods, to underscore that the proposed store would be smaller than many others nearby.
During the June meeting, Commissioner Andrea Gardner, chair of the Planning and Zoning Commission, questioned why Safeway did not include Andronico's, just east on Solano, which could have served as a more relevant comparison. (The 13,000-square-foot Andronico's is less than one-quarter the size of Safeway's proposed store.) She said the study failed to prove why the massive upgrade would be appropriate for Albany's 17,000 residents.
"There still is a question of whether the store size is appropriate for the site. What if it is too large for the economy of Albany is a question," said Gardner.
For many local business owners, Safeway's expansion is unwelcome news. Safeway plans to expand its flower shop, bakery and deli, which could put the crunch on small businesses that already provide those services. There are already more than 10 commercial vacancies on Solano.
"It's going to take away my customers," said John Fealy, who owns Zarri's, a grocery store and deli several blocks west of Safeway. When Trader Joe's opened in El Cerrito Plaza, he added, his wine sales dropped by half.
"Albany is a small, business-oriented town," said the 49-year old Walnut Creek resident, who has seven children ages 4 to 16 to support. "What Safeway is doing is stealing something from the soul of Albany."
Some business owners insist the corporate giant would only make Solano less attractive to shoppers.
"Bigger is not better," said Pennie Opal Plan, owner of Gathering Tribes, which sells Native American crafts and art. "People come to Solano Avenue for the small town feel. If they proceed with the plan, some shoppers will simply choose to go to Fourth Street, College Avenue or Elmwood to shop at small boutique stores,"
Plan said, if Safeway proceeds, she might boycott the company, though she has shopped there for 19 years.
Residents who live next to Safeway also said they are concerned about traffic. According to the current plan, 18-wheel trucks, the standard model for the company, will drive down Neilson Street to unload. Then they will return on Nielson and exit Albany via Solano. The trucks weigh about 40 tons, so Marin Avenue will be off limits because it has a five-ton weight limit.
"It will increase a lot of traffic on my street during the 18 months of construction, and even after that," said Kyle Kosup, 55, a web developer who has lived next to Safeway on Curtis for 20 years. "Besides, it doesn't feel good to live behind a tall building. The say they'll plant trees, but this is not what I signed up for."
However, some neighbors think the expansion plan will be a boon.
"I appreciate the neighbors' concern, but it is nice to have something we can be proud of," said Peggy McQuaid, an Albany resident who lives three blocks from Safeway. McQuaid, who regularly shops at Safeway, said the current building looks too "shabby" and that she expects the store will carry more variety in the new building.
The Solano Avenue Association said Safeway's expansion will boost Solano's economy.
"Safeway plays a vital role on Solano Avenue, acting as an 'anchor' for the independently owned businesses that satellite it. And it plays a significant role in drawing traffic, the good kind, to Solano Avenue," said Allen Cain, director of the association.
Cain said, in an e-mail interview with Patch, when visitors come to Safeway, surrounding merchants gain free exposure at the very least and, at best, new customers.
He also said 250 of the entire association's members have not expressed any opposition to the plan, although some have shared concerns over Safeway's "mega store."
Emilie Raguso
3:23 pm on Tuesday, June 29, 2010
Does Albany need a new Safeway? And, if so, Albany, how big do you want it?
Tony Caine
5:01 pm on Tuesday, June 29, 2010
I live on Neilson St., about a block from Safeway. While I share concerns about traffic and disruption during construction, I am more concerned about the possibility of losing the store entirely if we drive them away. When I first moved to Albany in the 80's the Safeway lot was filled to capacity throughout the day. These days it is more often half full. It appears that the store as it stands is not nearly as competitive as it used to be. The trend is toward larger grocery stores in order to be competitive. I don't know exactly how small a store Safeway is willing to build. But I am reluctant to play chicken with them at the planning and zoning level to find out. It is important to retain a neighborhood resource like Safeway on Solano. Equivalent resources are a long distance away from this site. The neighborhood would miss Safeway if it decides to close. A store at this location is an encouragement for walking and biking instead of driving to shop.
Doubtlessly some immediate neighbors will feel worse off if a larger store is built no matter what concessions and adjustments Safeway makes. I don't know if there is an answer to this dilemma. Perhaps Safeway might offer to buy them out? The important thing is to thoroughly hear everyone out and follow standard planning and zoning procedures.
Tony Caine
Amy Smolens
6:00 pm on Tuesday, June 29, 2010
I also like the idea of having a Safeway within city limits and appreciate what the company is planning to encourage bicycle and pedestrian access to the store. But P&Z Commissioner Andrea Gardner's Andronico's comparison (13,000 vs 54,000 sq ft) demonstrates that the remodel is too big. I'd like them to stay, but I think the size needs to be scaled down. And we can't destroy the small businesses on Solano, whose owners we all know personally. There is a place for a better Safeway, but this is overkill.
Tony Caine
6:23 pm on Tuesday, June 29, 2010
I wonder how healthy Andronico's is? They seem quite empty whenever I visit in the afternoon. Maybe they are doing better at rush hour.
Emilie Raguso
4:57 am on Wednesday, June 30, 2010
I hear Albany could have a Whole Foods at some point. Would that be the nail in Safeway's coffin? Or is it a totally different customer base? From what I've heard a lot of people in Albany do their shopping at Trader Joe's. I wonder what kind of effect that's had on Safeway.
Tony Caine
8:51 am on Wednesday, June 30, 2010
Over the past ten years the El Cerrito shopping center has been revitalized and has drawn a lot of business away from Solano Ave. The EC center was really on the skids in the 90's after the department store closed down and it is truly amazing how they have turned the place around. Albany is on the horns of a dilemma because it wants to retain a small town ambiance and at the same time needs to improve the vitality of Solano Avenue which means bringing more business and traffic there. More business and traffic impacts the neighbors quite directly.
It is hard to say exactly what the customer base of Safeway is these days. I think it is more a question of what we want going forward. Do we want a small neighborhood store or do we want to try and revitalize the Albany section of Solano to be more like the Berkeley section? If we want to revitalize, an expanded Safeway would be a major drawing card to bring people to the street. It might impact some current businesses but it would also foster the creation of many new businesses. It would change the character of the street. But my impression is that the Albany area is not doing very well as it is. Change is always a source of contention and uncertainty.
Brian Parsley
1:33 pm on Wednesday, June 30, 2010
I believe that the residents’ concerns about vehicular and delivery traffic are salient and we should continue to address them to find a resolution that most will find accommodating. However I find the notion that a larger Safeway would hurt small businesses is perhaps unfounded.
Solano Safeway currently has a deli and floral department which it plans to expand and run more efficiently. I could see where this might lead to minimal impact to few businesses along Solano but I have seen no real data to presented support widespread negative impact. Safeway also plans to add a bakery and butcher/fresh fish department. Albany currently has no butcher or fresh fish shops in Albany. As for bakeries the only business close is Butter Cream on San Pablo Ave which makes delicious pastries and cupcakes (the chocolate chip lemon scones are heavenly by the way). To my knowledge they don’t sell sheet cakes, fruit cakes or pies. For these we must travel outside of Albany and spend our money to support other cities economies.
Brian Parsley
1:34 pm on Wednesday, June 30, 2010
There are a few facts missing in your story as well. First the proposed Safeway is going to be a LEED gold building. LEED is an internationally recognized green building certification system. Secondly the Safeway project could add as much as $200,000 into Albany’s public art fund. I would be interested to find out if an expanded Safeway would represent to possibility of jobs for local residents and youth. Finally Safeway has been a good neighbor to Albany. They have served our community since 1929, in their current location since the 1960’s, so they are no Johnny come lately. They have donated to many local organizations and have co-sponsored community events.
So why build such a large store? I can only assume that Safeway wants to draw shoppers from outside of Albany to spend their money in our local economy. If this is a bad thing then I fail to see the point of having a Solano Stroll, hosted by the Solano Avenue Association, to promote businesses on Solano Avenue.
My hope is that Safeway, the residents on Curtis and Madison, and business owners along Solano can come to an equitable solution to this much delayed and much needed project. The alternative is possibly a very large vacant storefront and parking lot.
Nancy Brandt
7:40 am on Tuesday, July 27, 2010
Good Neighbor? (1) Take a stroll down the alleyway behind the store and enjoy looking at the garbage heap that has been there since May 2009 (documented). (2) When several of the lights in the parking were non-functional, leaving the steps down to Curtis Street in total darkness at night, it took at least a month of requests for repair to get them replaced. In fact, a reminder of Safeway's legal liability if someone fell down the stairs was probably the only thing that inspired them to do something. Tax-deductible corporate donations do not a good neighbor make.
To those bemoaning the half-empty parking lot, I suggest just taking a look at the disgusting dairy case in the Solano Avenue store. Safeway corporation has allowed this store to go to the dogs to push the community to demand a new "lifestyle" version. More customers would visit this store if it were simply better, not bigger.
Tony Caine
9:58 am on Tuesday, July 27, 2010
But it is also a truism in business that when business drops off sharply the maintenance budget gets cut. This is a classic chicken and egg issue. Perhaps the poultry manager has an answer.
Emilie Raguso
9:13 pm on Wednesday, June 30, 2010
All these comments have added so much to the story. I really appreciate Brian's observation about the LEED aspect of the planned new building. Also, its history in the neighborhood. I do think this is an issue with at least two sides. I can appreciate that neighbors wouldn't want to deal with noisy and disruptive construction, but as a whole it does seem it could be a draw from outside Albany into the neighborhood.
I did want to add that, though Albany may not have a fish market, there is a fresh fish market right on the Berkeley border -- the Tokyo fish market. We'll have a story out about it in the next week.
I probably have a bias toward buying local and supporting local business in terms of my own habits, but the amount of support large companies can give (via sponsorships and donations) really do give one pause.
Tony, you have had many insightful comments on this issue -- thank you so much. You mentioned it's your impression the local businesses aren't doing all that well. I wonder what kind of data is available on that. (Other than anecdotal stories.) It would be interesting to hear about the state of finances from our local entrepreneurs.
Tony Caine
9:34 pm on Wednesday, June 30, 2010
You might contact the Albany Chamber of Commerce and see what their members have to say. You might also contact the Treasurer's office for data on the number of businesses closed in the last year and how this compares to 5 or 10 years ago. Also look at sales tax revenue from Solano. I can only say that lower Solano seems much quieter than upper Solano and just general comments I have heard from businesses about how tough times are. Times are difficult for everybody now but if a business has been on the edge for a while a recession can easily push it over.
Amy Smolens
9:20 pm on Wednesday, June 30, 2010
These are all important observations and questions. I think it's crucial for you and others to bring them up at the next Planning & Zoning meeting at which the Safeway remodel will be discussed. The P&Z Commission should hear a variety of opinions from Albany residents.
Neo Serafimidis
9:56 am on Thursday, July 1, 2010
On the topic of Safeway's proposal to build a LEED building, and the proposal to build a Whole Foods down on San Pablo, Safeway has been rated about twice as green across all aspects of the business than Whole Foods. See http://www.ceres.org/Document.Doc?id=388
Emilie Raguso
1:33 pm on Thursday, July 1, 2010
Interesting comment neo! I'll definitely check that out. And Patch will be at the next P&Z meeting for sure, Amy! Would be great to hear from more residents there as well.
suzan snider
12:59 pm on Friday, October 1, 2010
I would like to mention that I have a hard time spending my money in Albany unless I am in need of a manicure, there is not much to actually "purchase", except for food.
I feel like Albany as a whole never had a cohesive plan for Solano Ave. Other cities have plans and incentives to attract good businesses, and they have a stake in making sure they work. The newer Safeway is needed and would only be an asset, but of course it must look and feel right. It sounds like it is something our town should embrace. We can have something new and not destroy our small town feeling!
Emilie Raguso
7:13 pm on Friday, October 1, 2010
Not sure when this is coming up again before Planning & Zoning or the Council... I will figure this out. Anyone know off the top of his/her head?
Nancy Brandt
11:38 pm on Friday, October 1, 2010
Excuse me, but as I recall, on Solano Avenue in Albany one can find a CVS Pharmacy, stores for children's toys, a yarn store, a nursery, among others. So it seems that there is more to "purchase" than just food, and I'm wondering what the "lifestyle" Safeway will contribute. To be clear, I do not oppose the improvement of the Safeway, but, as always, the motto is "better, not bigger."
Ross Stapleton-Gray
11:04 pm on Friday, October 1, 2010
Solano is an ecosystem, with a variety of "microclimates." Solano west of the BART is very different from BART to Santa Fe. The section that the Safeway is in has its own flavor. I would worry about the traffic flow (and have a 4th grader at Marin, though she doesn't have to cross Marin Ave. to get to school), but I think on balance we'd benefit from a revamped Safeway. Though if I were allowed to wave a wand and redesign it, I'd leave a wide swath of patio and trees between it and the street... there's too little shaded pedestrian space the length of Solano.
Another thought, re business on Solano... I think there's every indication that the USPS will close (or, as they call it, "consolidate") Landscape station. That's half the reason I walk up Solano, rather than down it (to the Albany PO, which which had been remodeling when I was shopping for a PO box); if Landscape does close, we ought to send some smiling folks from the CofC to stand around the PO handing out maps to our end of Solano, as an alternative to the PO box customers trudging east through the tunnel to migrate to the Shattuck station.
Sarajane Forbes
9:52 am on Saturday, October 2, 2010
Nancy,
Unless I need medication , yarn (and I don't know many knitters), or a toy for a rare birthday party, there is no reason for me to walk down Solano Ave to "shop". The restaurants are abundant, but that's about all. I invite you to take a trip to other Cities with downtowns and shop. There are a slew on your way up to Calistoga, or even Benicia's first street offer's actual downtown shopping.
What people on here are trying to say is there isn't much on the Albany side of Solano that is going to be "hurt" by an expanded Safeway. Albany's Solano "shopping" has left a lot to be desired for some time now. Nail shops aren't sustaining our tax revenue. We are a cute town, we can do better. I welcome an expanded (and even larger) Safeway if it will ramp up our business base, attract out of town shoppers to spend their money, and revive Solano. I feel for those who live on one of the adjacent streets, but you all knew Safeway was there when you bought, you live 1/2 block off Solano, you had to know there would be traffic and parking on your street.
Nancy Brandt
10:36 am on Saturday, October 2, 2010
I am sorry that Albany/Solano Ave. disappoints and doesn't meet your needs. I'm not sure what the expanded Safeway will offer to fill in those shopping gaps. I don't object to the presence of Safeway, and yes, I was aware it was there when I bought my house, and was aware that I live a half block from a busy commercial area, hence gladly share the street parking with visitors to the area.
The neighbors' primary objection, as has been discussed at great length at the public meetings before the Planning Commission, is the excessive scale of the proposed development and how that forced the site designers to suggest bringing 18-wheelers down the side streets as well as all of the Safeway customer traffic. All we seek is an improved store in a scale that is coherent with the community.
Sarajane Forbes
10:55 am on Saturday, October 2, 2010
The expanded Safeway will at least bring shoppers from nearby cities to spend their dollars in Albany. Something that is not happening much now due to the bunk selection of "shopping" Solano has to offer currently.I can't believe you still have to ask what shopping gaps need to be filled.
I get the neighbors objections of the 18 wheelers etc. Someone close to me lives down from the CVS (formerly Longs) and yes, 18 wheelers go down the street, but it's not all day every day and it's not as bad as some may think. Small annoyance really. The trade off is there is a nice well kept drugstore/market there now instead of the once Salvation Army that had piles of junk all over the back parking lot as well as scavengers all night. Sometimes you have to give to get.... ya know??
Nancy Brandt
11:15 am on Saturday, October 2, 2010
I believe I was misunderstood: I meant specifically what shopping gaps on Solano Ave. will be filled by a huge Safeway? There is already a pharmacy on Solano, there are flower shops, there is food. Certainly Safeway won't sell clothing. So what will change in terms of available commodities?
That said, I think you are correct on many fronts, and I trust you will be content when the new store arrives. I've enjoyed our exchange.
Ross Stapleton-Gray
11:29 am on Saturday, October 2, 2010
I've my own biases, e.g., there are stores on Solano that I'm astonished to realize they're there, as I've never looked... my view of Solano comes from regularly walking the stretch from Curtis on up to the top, and from the Library on up less often, from being a parent, and a work-at-home entrepreneur. But any of the Albany stretches I cover don't see the lively people traffic you see up in the long block from Colusa up to the Alameda, caused by the critical mass of a bunch of places people go often. The impending addition of iScream will likely add to that; the departure of the new beauty store won't likely hurt it (why a second one? and why launch and then fold it within months?). Somewhat surprised to see plans for a Goodwill retail store where the dance studio has been gone for many years; more changes will ensue if Landscape PO closes.
One thing I miss: a place for casual coffee and business meetings. Sunny Side closes at 3pm, and many's the time I'd wanted to meet with someone, and had pick somewhere like Farine or the Starbucks. If I more frequented "lower Solano" there are places, I'm sure, but if the new Safeway has a cafe akin to what the Oakland Whole Foods has, it'd be great for that... that store (albeit ginormous) is a great hub for people traffic in what would otherwise be a rather sparse Oakland landscape.
Neo Serafimidis
11:55 am on Saturday, October 2, 2010
It seems to me there are two related but nonetheless distinct threads going in this discussion: the Safeway remodel, and the general state of lower Solano as a shopping district. Perhaps the latter deserves its own article or Letter to the Editor to carry it forward.
First I think it is worth reiterating that currently, the pathetic Safeway is the only grocery store in this city of 17,000. That in itself is kind of appalling. Many Albanians spend their money in another county even (Lucky or Kensington Market) rather then go there. Yes, neighbor concerns must be addressed, but community values seem to me to suggest that neighbors also need to be willing to "take one for the team" as it were. We all deserve a good grocery store. That's basic. I also agree with previous comments that a Safeway that brings more Albanians (and north Berkelians?) to Solano definitely provides a stimulus for improvement of the whole shopping district, something for which there is much room (thread #2).
Nancy Brandt
12:28 pm on Saturday, October 2, 2010
The neighbors are happy to see an improved and even somewhat larger store. We ask only that it not be a megastore covering the entire lot--i.e. doubling its present square footage. As Andrea Gardner of the Planning Commission has pointed out more than once: many of the traffic circulation problems associated with the current plans would be eliminated if the proposed store size were scaled down.
Part of the "pathetic" nature of the Solano Avenue Safeway has to do with the (some believe deliberate) way the condition of the store has been allowed to degrade. I agree it is disgusting. That did not have to be the case. However, so it is, and voices are clamoring rightfully for a better store--how much bigger a store is, and always has been, the issue.
Neo Serafimidis
1:00 pm on Saturday, October 2, 2010
I certainly agree that any corporation that wants to build something in a community must be engaged to scale and tailor the project to the community. I am sure Safeway started out asking for as much as possible, and the process of scaling it back seems to be working out right. But I too have some concern that we not push too hard and get something that's not a significant enough improvement for all our trouble, or that the project gets scrubbed entirely. That would be bad.
I don't have much sympathy for the view that a major corporation is allowing their brand to be tarnished as a strategy for winning the populace over. And for the record, my disappointment with the Safeway is that it is dumpy. Look at Monterrey Market. It is 10 times as dumpy and 10 times as popular. My disappointment stems from the fact that the store doesn't have enough of the kind of stuff I want.
Sarajane Forbes
11:55 am on Saturday, October 2, 2010
Thanks for the clarification Nancy=)
I get what you are asking now. And, I agree, I don't think a new improved Safeway will fill any current shopping gaps. My hope is that it will bring in outside customers, thus increasing more revenue for the City. As Ross also pointed out, possibly revamp that area as well. As of right now I don't frequent the "middle or lower" end of Solano as I have no needs to be met there. I love Sunnyside Cafe as well, but only eat out a handful of times a year. I would happily split my grocery shopping between El Cerrito's Trader Joes and a new Safeway that has more to offer than currently. Sadly right now I just avoid it. The Selection is poor and the parking lot a nightmare!
If it turns out like Ross mentioned, a cafe area would be lovely to visit!
I've also enjoyed our exchange. I believe if we work together and listen to each other, this can become something everyone is happy with in the end.
lubov mazur
5:49 pm on Saturday, October 30, 2010
The Traffic and Safety Commission has been working with Safeway to plan an effective, safe traffic pattern.
My personal preference is for a new Safeway at the sidewalk to close one more dead zone in the streetscape. Size is not so much of a concern because by next July I will have heard 40 years of "No. It's too big." It's the most common, easily made argument against redevelopment, and in the long term it doesn't hold up at this scale. They are not trying to build Costco or Walmart on Solano. It's a medium sized Safeway store.
I have read the arguments against redevelopment and I see the same arguments that were used against Target. None of the horrible predictions came true then, and there is no reason they should do so for Safeway now.
Safeway has been a good supportive neighbor since its first days in Albany. We should be encouraging them to continue so.
Al C
11:03 pm on Friday, December 31, 2010
Safeway is a joke as a grocery shopping destination. If I want a bigger version of it, I would rather have a berkeley bowl or whole foods. If they don't to keep it the same size, they should get the hell out and have trader joes go in there. A trader joes would be so much better over there.
Tony Caine
12:43 pm on Saturday, January 1, 2011
Safeway would not have remained profitable as they have if their management was completely thick headed and out of touch. They obviously have a customer base which likes things the way they are. Safeway does not want to alienate this base by throwing out their current products. Instead they want to add Whole Foods like features to bring new people into the store so they can appeal to both types of customers. They cannot do this in a small site like the one on Solano. This is why they want to expand. There would be no point in expanding with more of the same since they aren't filling their parking lot now.
In any case, the situation is much like Golden Gate Fields in that some people would like to see something different go in but the property owner is the one who ultimately controls what happens as long as it is within zoning guidelines or close enough to get a variance.
Sarajane Forbes
12:55 pm on Saturday, January 1, 2011
Al, I invite you to visit any other "newer" Safeway and see what we really could have. They are pretty nice actually (There is one in San Ramon that stands out as being pretty impressive off the top of my head).and if we get one,I could see myself doing a lot of shopping there as opposed to TJ's or Whole Foods, etc.
Keeping my money in Albany...