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Ask a Cop: Why Do Police Officers Waste Gas?

Officers directing traffic leave their engines running for hours sometimes. Why?

Question:

Why do police officers always leave their cars running when they are directing traffic at events such as the Aptos fireworks? I saw a highway patrol officer with his car running for hours there. It seems like an environmental waste. Can't they just get in their cars and turn them on if needed?

Answer, from Sarah Jackson, California Highway Patrol, Aptos division:

Patrol vehicles contain a large amount of electronic equipment: Mobile data computers, audio/video recording devices, and our communication radios. 

Because this is a significant drain on a battery, the vehicle must remain running or the battery will quickly run out. Our newer patrol vehicles are equipped with two full-size batteries, however this still is not adequate for extended periods of time. 

Officers also rely on the consistent availability of radio communication in order to be responsive to calls from the public or in cases of emergency incidents.
 
Another issue is a K9 Officer's vehicle. These are equipped with a special air conditioning system which must remian operational in order to provide a healthy work environment for the officer's K9 partner. (CHP does not have a K9 Officer assigned to Santa Cruz, but we do in other areas.)
 
An officer who is stranded with a dead battery and unable to respond to a call for service from the public is not acceptable to us, and would not likely be acceptable to the public needing our help.

geordie January 15, 2013 at 07:26 pm
The dog unit a/c is a good answer, but the technology has existed for decades to restart the car when the battery gets low. A Crown Victoria Police Interceptor is a purpose built car, it should have a suitable power system. Off road vehicles, which also run high electrical loads, use twin batteries and a "split charge" system so they never have to worry about starting. Remote starters automatically start the engine, it would be trivial to also start the police car engine when either battery runs low. Idling is a colossal and unnecessary waste of fuel. According to Ford one hour of driving idling is worth 33 miles of driving which is about 2 gallons.
I drive 80 miles per day on freeways, I appreciate the work the CHP does. Mostly I see them pulling car pool violators and attending accidents and breakdowns, they aren't idle much. Another good question, why do Alameda PD run red lights and speed when they aren't on a call? I was cycling and as I came up to a red light a police car pulled up, he looked both ways, flipped his light on, ran the red then switched them off again.
Paul D January 15, 2013 at 08:20 pm
Aptos? What happened to the El Cerrito Patch, now its the dumping ground for orphaned articles from anywhere in the West?
John Stashik January 15, 2013 at 09:14 pm
You said it. So long El Cerrito.
DJ January 16, 2013 at 02:31 am
This is great! Is this "Ask a Cop" to be an ongoing feature? or "Ask a (fill in the blank)"?
Paul D: I think an answer from an Hwy Patrol officer in Aptos still applies to officers in El Cerrito. I have no problem with this.
HaHa January 16, 2013 at 12:39 pm
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WTF?? January 16, 2013 at 01:39 pm
I have seen this on several occasions as well.
Lights on, blow the stop light, lights off, resume normal driving. Must be nice. lol
best bookkeeper January 16, 2013 at 02:21 pm
Why do firefighters park and idle their enormous gas-guzzlers in front of the Lucky while they shop for lunch? Why do they pull up behind convertibles and start the siren? Why do cops blow around bikers? "Because they can"--after all, WE are paying, including paying for many hours of sleeping and eating.
Analisa Harangozo (Editor) January 16, 2013 at 03:15 pm
If we were to continue with this feature, who else would you like us to survey for it?
Analisa Harangozo (Editor) January 16, 2013 at 03:16 pm
DJ - If we were to continue with this feature, who else would you like us to survey for it?
Hugo January 16, 2013 at 09:52 pm
My gripe is when drivers do not use their turning signals. Unfortunately, some policemen are in this category. I wonder how many less accidents would occur if people practiced this safe practice. I wonder why people are not given tickets. If police gave tickets to people for not using their blinkers, Ca would be collecting so much money.

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