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Column: Helicopter Survey of Bay Area Planned Aug. 27 to Sept. 1

The Berkeley Police Department sent out the following notice, prepared by the National Nuclear Security Administration, Wednesday afternoon. It has been reprinted in full. Did you see a helicopter? Let us know.

This post originally was published Aug. 29 at 7:59 p.m.

Beginning Aug. 27, a helicopter may be seen flying at a low-level altitude over portions of San Francisco, Pacifica and Oakland, Calif. The helicopter will be taking measurements of naturally-occurring background radiation. The helicopter will make daily flights between Aug. 27 and Sept. 1, 2012.

The flyovers are a part of a joint research project between the Department of Homeland Security’s Domestic Nuclear Detection Office (DNDO) and the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) to assess natural background radiation levels. The survey will cover approximately 69 square miles over the selected locations. NNSA’s twin-engine Bell 412 helicopter, operated by the Remote Sensing Laboratory Aerial Measuring System in Las Vegas, Nev., will perform the survey. The helicopter will fly in a grid pattern over the locations about 300 feet above the ground. The flights will be limited to daylight hours and the survey is estimated to take about five days to complete.

The background data will be used by DNDO and NNSA to improve aerial radiation measurement capabilities used by local, state and federal entities.

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Established by Congress in 2000, NNSA is a semi-autonomous agency within the U.S. Department of Energy responsible for enhancing national security through the military application of nuclear science. NNSA maintains and enhances the safety, security, reliability and performance of the U.S. nuclear weapons stockpile without nuclear testing; works to reduce global danger from weapons of mass destruction; provides the U.S. Navy with safe and effective nuclear propulsion; and responds to nuclear and radiological emergencies in the U.S. and abroad.

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D. Mehrten August 31, 2012 at 01:47 am
Black helicopter? Sheesh.
Monica August 31, 2012 at 03:11 am
This article left me with more questions than answers - I'd already heard about the helicopters on facebook several days ago. How do 'natural background radiation levels' occur or what is known about this? "Data will be used to improve aerial radiation measurements" - does that mean they're collecting data to better collect data? What does the data inform? How much money does it cost? Just wondering...
Emilie Raguso August 31, 2012 at 03:17 am
lol.
Emilie Raguso August 31, 2012 at 03:22 am
Great questions, Monica! I'm going to see if I can get one of our reporters to follow up on your inquiries.
Kate Lopes August 31, 2012 at 01:26 pm
Upon reading the description of the NNSA and their mission, as well as their autonomy, I continue my suspicion regarding this "survey." not buying it.
Robert Marshall August 31, 2012 at 01:38 pm
As I write this, they just flew over Albany, and headed out towards the Ag Center. Unfortunately, didn't have time to grab my camera. That thing is seriously loud!!! Rattled the whole house and scared the heck out of my dogs.
Robert Marshall August 31, 2012 at 01:42 pm
The basic Wikipedia entry has some information which you might find helpful regarding what is background radiation, and how it happens.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_radiation
Leslie J. Gold August 31, 2012 at 01:46 pm
If the survey area is "San Francisco, Pacifica and Oakland," why are they flying over Albany? It's not just one or two passes -- it is repeated and noisy!
Robert Phoenix August 31, 2012 at 05:30 pm
Leslie, they have been doing this for quite sometime. I remember seeing the copters back in 2008/9, buzzing low and hovering over homes in Albany. Its not just noisy, its disturbing.
I have two thoughts about the latest round of buzzing. 1) They are gathering radiation data from Fukushima fallout. 2) They are psychologically preparing the public for the introduction of drones soon to be flying over urban skies.
Robert Phoenix August 31, 2012 at 05:31 pm
The Albany city council can pass measures about height/altitude and what is acceptable.
Tim Q. Cannon August 31, 2012 at 05:45 pm
personally, I think it's really dangerous for them to fly that low...one instance of lost power, and disaster...they'd have no time to find a safe place to land
Paul D August 31, 2012 at 05:54 pm
The helicopter flew over my neighborhood today dropping 'Vote For Romney Or Else' bumper stickers.
Francois Dillinger August 31, 2012 at 05:56 pm
Big Brother is watching
Jenny Craik August 31, 2012 at 05:56 pm
They just flew over Cornell Elementary four or five times during lunch recess...
Dennis Keller August 31, 2012 at 06:04 pm
The Albany city council could try to enforce such a measure, but the FAA would quickly put the city council in its place.
Dennis Keller August 31, 2012 at 06:11 pm
They're flying a Bell 412, which is a twin-engine helicopter with a good safety record. Anything is possible, but very unlikely.
If we're talking about reducing danger in the city, I sure would love to see everyone put their energy toward having lighted in-roadway crosswalk systems on Marin.
Robert Phoenix August 31, 2012 at 06:11 pm
@Dennis. Even if that is the case and the FAA could do that, at least our local representatives would be aware of the issue and cognizant of our needs. Perhaps it would merely be symbolic, but it would also spur a new level of awareness around this issue and engage people in a conscious fashion.
Robert Phoenix August 31, 2012 at 06:14 pm
@Dennis, its not safety per se, but a form of psychological and sensory intrusiveness that people in a small and quiet community like Albany need not be subjected to.
Dennis Keller August 31, 2012 at 06:20 pm
Sure it's intrusive, but given the frequency of the flights, it hardly seems like time should be spent. I would rate Bart noise of garbage trucks as more intrusive in their cumulative form, however most seem to accept those disturbances.
Albany may be small and mostly quiet, but it is part of a large urban area. Expectations should be set accordingly.
Eric Bordax August 31, 2012 at 06:35 pm
[Insert paranoia here.]
Robert Marshall August 31, 2012 at 07:06 pm
Any restriction on aircraft, which the city may establish, would be superceded by the FAA and national regulations, which presumably allow such flights as deemed necessary.
Robert Marshall August 31, 2012 at 07:14 pm
I'll never forget an incident about 15ish years ago. I was on my way to a Sharks' game with my father. We had just taken the 880 connector in Emeryville when we noticed a couple of the huge Sea Stallion copters were making a low level bee line towards Oakland. They came over the freeway after we passed, and must've cleared the freeway by less than 50 feet.
As I looked over my left shoulder I could see a huge dust storm coming up from Raimondi Field, in West Oakland, where both of them landed. For the life of me I cannot believe this was an intentional incident and they were looking for somewhere to land. When I inquired about it, nobody seemed to admit it had happened.
Robert Phoenix August 31, 2012 at 07:14 pm
One man's paranoia, is another man's awareness. @Dennis, I have already stated that the copter flights are not new and have been going on since at least 2008. Garbage trucks are part of the milieu. You should be more concerned about electromagnetic smog from BART than sound and BART doesn't hover over schoolyards.
Erika Lockhart September 2, 2012 at 02:52 am
The helicopters affect bird populations on Alcatraz Island. They also affect our ability, as a national park, to provide information to visitors.
The number of helicopters over the Bay daily is very disturbing. The coast guard does frequent drills. The news helicopters for "Occupy the Farm" had me on edge for days, and impacted bird colonies in nesting season. Why can't they use balloons or something quiet to make measurements? Maybe I sound like an idiot but has anyone asked this? "We, the people", and all that...who asked us? And, what's the benefit, and why is money being spent on it when people are unemployed, etc. Just wondering.
Robert Marshall September 2, 2012 at 12:15 pm
Because helicopters cannot turn directions and had back West anytime they want. Have you ever heard of an attempt to go around the World in a Hot Air Balloon East to West? Nope, can't happen.
As much as I didn't care for them, were the news helicopters covering the Gill Tract really affecting bird colonies on Alcatraz? After being here, they would have flown home, which is Oakland Airport, not SFO.
Tatter Salad September 2, 2012 at 04:29 pm
Ericka's correct:The state should provide her with a standard foil hat, -and ear plugs.
Tatter Salad September 2, 2012 at 04:51 pm
It'sall due to a new reality, and new instrumentation.
Have you ever wondered what the Coast Guard has been doing since the mid-'70's when they board incoming foreign vessels (new to the Bay)? Hint: They board with VERY sensitive geiger counters. As one former Coast Guard guy told me years ago, his counter went-off while walking down a deep hallway. They were all alerted, AK's in hand; - they chased it down to coming from WITHIN a bulkhead (read: wall) of the ship next to sleeping quarters. They cracked open the wall, and THERE was a half-dozen cheap Chinese watches with glowing dials. The guy whose bunk it was thought he was toast; but the Guard team laughed, and walked on. There are WAY TOO many container ships coming in for the Coast Guard to inspect, and there are WAY too many bomb makers in the world today- (and there will be much MORE tomorrow). Fortunately, sensitive systems have been deployed by satellite, and can be augmented from airplanes. High resolution mapping (done by helicopter) can document pre-existing 'hot' areas so that the Guard isn't called out (-again-) to chase down 'glow in the dark' paint.
John Bozek September 4, 2012 at 03:05 am
The paranoia expressed in some of the above comments is amusing. Hope it's intended to be that way. Helicopters are a part of our urban airscape at this point - news, traffic and medivac heading to Childrens Hospital in Oakland are common over Albany. Background radiation is both natural, from the composition of the rock and soil, and man made, due to the components in concrete for example. Great idea to have a baseline map of it so changes can be identified and the causes pinpointed.
John Bozek September 4, 2012 at 03:15 am
Fear over EM (electroagnetic) radiation from power lines lead to extensive studies in the 80s and 90s, none of which ever found any effect. Throwing out a term like 'electromagnetic smog' is easy. Backing it up with evidence of any deleterious effect is not possible. BTW, BART does pass very close to Albany Middle School, and the total time trains have been above students far exceeds that of any helicopter. Paranoia is fine, but back it up with facts if you want the rest of us to accept it as awareness.
Jodo September 4, 2012 at 04:39 am
Oh yee lord of science, who controls molecules with lasers, please enlighten us with your higher knowledge and impeccable morality.
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